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Moldover Live template...condensed/minimized Audio tracks?
« on: October 08, 2008, 04:30:36 PM »
I love the Moldover templates.  Incredibly helpful as I'm trying to organize my approach mentally and physically to live performance.  I feel like I should be able to figure this out on my own, but what is he using the condensed/shrunken audio tracks for (the ones that a minimized to the left of each track song1/song2/beats/bass/vocals)??  [The share the same output and pan settings as the track they are next to so are they an additional track of same kind of samples??]

In his session you can see that every slot in those tracks are filled with samples Moldover is using in his set, but why are they so much smaller?  That was it is impossible to read to names of each slot which he emphasized the importance of being able to do during his performances. 

Nothing's wrong with my live sessions, working great, I'm just interested.  Anyone who could shed some light on this technique he's utilizing would be of great help to me.  Moldover - thanks for all your help and guidance.  Keep up the amazing work. 

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Re: Moldover Live template...condensed/minimized Audio tracks?
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2008, 08:46:21 AM »
  It seems that everyone else who is using Ableton actually uses it as far as the entire row is one part and then they scroll down to the next entire horizontal row right? - We can cherry-pick through the clips. We look at Ableton's interface screen as a place where you can combine any eight clips together. The only limitation being that you cannot play more than one clip in a column at a time. You can play as many in a row as there are columns though, but we can cherry pick the clips using a Logitech joystick. It works great!  Our set up is a laptop, Percussa audio cubes, a Novation X Station 25, Korg KP3 Kaoss pad, and a Qusimidi Raveolution 309. The number of MIDI devices is unlimited though, and Ableton's MIDI clock is quite accurate.
   The only roadblock I see for most kids getting involved with using Ableton is getting all their musical elements to line up to the time grid consistently so everything stays in sync perfectly. I use Acid Music Studio's beat mapper and then always have to go in and manually stretch to fit every track, be it a clip, loop, or nine-minute-long track that loops as well. Everything we load is set to cycle as a loop no matter the length. We can pull off a three-day-long set that has very few repeats in it using Ableton and the system I developed. It is at myspace.com/runninthingsrecords

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Re: Moldover Live template...condensed/minimized Audio tracks?
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2008, 06:01:57 PM »
Thanks for the info/explanation but I've actually been using Ableton Live for over four years now.  I've played many gigs in different styles and am very familiar with the program's capabilities. 

What I was asking was about Moldover's specific setup.  I admire and appreciate the way he has established his own system of performance using Live and Reaktor.  I just wanted to know about the "minimized" tracks in his session and how we works those into his set and custom Reaktor Ensembles.  Let me know if anybody has any idea or if I need to explain a little clearer!

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Re: Moldover Live template...condensed/minimized Audio tracks?
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2008, 07:02:25 PM »
They look like they are involved in signal routing. I notice there are silence clips on them (though don't know if these were being used or if they're just being kept handy there, as in if you need a block of silence for some reason, you could grab one from any one of these tracks), and some of them are variously panned hard left and right, and they're sending their audio to different destinations - the pre mix Reaktor, the post mix Reaktor, etc. So I don't know precisely how they work but they're part of the routing, and maybe of the smartmixer.

For instance if you use mono signals, you could put two signals through one audio channel at the same time, one panned hard left, the other hard right, and select the balance between them at the destination by automating the track's pan knob, or kill one or the other entirely. Then re-center and maybe stereo-fy the output signal before it's heard. Stuff like that.

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Re: Moldover Live template...condensed/minimized Audio tracks?
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2008, 07:40:05 AM »
 Okay - Yeah. When using the Percussa Audio Cubes, in order to make them blink to the beat you have to assign that task via a "track" in Ableton, but it is a MIDI track/clip and not an audio clip. It is most likely a function command like you said. It's making sense now. I guess I haven't heard of Reaktor yet. I need to look that up. I have been working exclusively with Ableton Live 7, and I haven't used any third party software with it yet other than the one that came with the cubes.

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Re: Moldover Live template...condensed/minimized Audio tracks?
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2008, 06:14:42 PM »
I love the Moldover templates.  Incredibly helpful as I'm trying to organize my approach mentally and physically to live performance.  I feel like I should be able to figure this out on my own, but what is he using the condensed/shrunken audio tracks for (the ones that a minimized to the left of each track song1/song2/beats/bass/vocals)??  [The share the same output and pan settings as the track they are next to so are they an additional track of same kind of samples??]

In his session you can see that every slot in those tracks are filled with samples Moldover is using in his set, but why are they so much smaller?  That was it is impossible to read to names of each slot which he emphasized the importance of being able to do during his performances. 

Nothing's wrong with my live sessions, working great, I'm just interested.  Anyone who could shed some light on this technique he's utilizing would be of great help to me.  Moldover - thanks for all your help and guidance.  Keep up the amazing work. 

moldover explains what the narrow tracks are for in this thread
http://controllerism.net/forum/index.php?topic=26.0

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Re: Moldover Live template...condensed/minimized Audio tracks?
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2008, 05:16:52 PM »
Thanks babyelephant!!  Perfect...exactly what I was looking for.